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Official Friends representation[edit]

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I'd like to propose that on the Main Page rather than just putting a link to each of our partners we use their logos instead. It gives them more adequate representation (seeing as most official friends use our logo on their site rather than just a link), and it also makes our main page more colorful. It wouldn't hurt anything to change them from links to logos with links. Just want to pass it by the community though; I can get all the logos necessary and change it if everyone is okay with this. --ToaMeiko (talk) 20:21, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

I like the idea a lot, in case you could not tell through {{External info}} website logos next to links make the site look a lot more professional and respectful towards the sites they use. Full Support. -NBP3.0 (talk) 20:24, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Support: Per NBP. --LK901 20:26, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Support BrickfilmNut (talk) 20:37, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Support NovaHawk 22:51, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Support CJC95 (talk) 22:28, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Yup. -Cligra
Okay' Berrybrick (talk) 23:03, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Ya --Knight
Support - Bug (talk) 01:21, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
or Support, I thought I did this allready ;P Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg


Replace wikia links with Wikipedia links or any non wikia link[edit]

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Without ranting, Wikia is our competition why advertise it? Even if it's not lego wikia, it be like Coca Cola advertising Club Orange. Why would they?, it just get people to try Pepsi. Wikipedia is our comrade and has a page for almost anything why can't we just use that? Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg

  • Wikia isn't our competition. the Brickipedia located at Wikia is. We aren't competing with Wookieepedia or Marvel Wiki or Disney Wiki or any of them. I don't think we should ignore the quality information contained at those places just because they are hosted by Wikia, anymore than we should come up with a rule like "people who use this site can't use Wikia". CJC95 (talk) 20:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
If there was an upvote button on forum posts, I would have to vote this up. Kudos for saying what I couldn't put into words. --LK901 22:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
I just don't want to advertise it, I'm not saying they can't use it :P Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg
Oppose. All our external links for Star Wars characters go to wikipedia:List of Star Wars characters, which provides little or no information about them. I assume the same goes for minor characters in other universes. If we're going to have external links, they may as well be useful. NovaHawk 22:13, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. Most Wikia wikis we use as sources and external links have higher quality information about detailed story-based subjects that you won't find on Wikipedia. --ToaMeiko (talk) 05:15, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't the majority of the information found on those sites be found in our background anyway? Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg
No CJC95 (talk) 19:15, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. - Bug (talk) 22:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
No legitimate reason to do this. -Cligra


Class colours[edit]

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Frankly it looks awful with two reds and two greens so:

C5-Red C4-Orange C3-Yellow C2-Green C1-Blue FA-Purple

That's the scientific order and will look much better! :) Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg

  • Ratings are probably going to be reworked very soon in those forums noone pays attention to, so we may as well wait for the changeover to be worrying about what the logos look like (got to merge the linked forum with another one, still trying to figure out how to do that, been meaning to talk to CJC about it) NovaHawk 12:46, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
    • Ah ratings. That will be fun. If memory serves (it may not, since it was July), I asked anyone how we would do this change they all wanted, and they all ignored me. :P CJC95 (talk) 13:36, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


VIP Points[edit]

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I was wondering if we should consider implementing VIP point values in set pages (especially because they change in value, adding some kind of archive of the changes would be smart). I know it is minor and usually easy to figure out but I figured it was worth consideration. -NBP3.0 (talk) 16:05, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Sounds interesting. Maybe a field in the infobox? --LK901 17:53, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Basically what I was thinking of, perhaps below the price template. -NBP3.0 (talk) 23:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Sure. That's a fine piece of information to include. -Cligra
  • Neutral... the things I have against it is that I just think it's a lot of work to go and add it back to all our articles, most of which won't have this information available since they've been pulled from the shop site, and the information isn't excactly super useful either. And isn't the number of VIP points just however much the sets costs in USD? NovaHawk 22:13, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Basically, so we would not have to look into much. Just if there were any sales or specials where a value pack was double, or one set on sale gave you double VIP, etc. It would provide validation more than anything, and I look them up on S@H instead of Bricki. That's why I feel we should fill these holes. -NBP3.0 (talk) 22:03, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Neutral Not sure what VIP points are. CJC95 (talk) 21:31, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Then VIP points = floor(price USD)? So, I guess I support if Mediawiki has a floor function, then it would be as easy as say, setting so every set released on LEGO.com had an parameter VIP=True, and that just took the floor of the USD setting in the price template. Wait, did I say easy.. CJC95 (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Sounds like a waste of time to me (It'll be hard to obtain information on older sets..), but maybe someone else would appreciate it. - Bug (talk) 00:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Per buggy that's 1000s of sets we'd need to update, and all they are the american dollar price minus the . and numbers which follow it. Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg
  • As I explained above, if we had say, this, it can be automated based of the USD price. CJC95 (talk) 22:25, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Problem with automating it is that it will mean that it will add a VIP points section to sets which were discontinued before the VIP program even began (as an aside, we can just use a parserfunction for floor, eg {{#expr:floor(2.5)}} produces 2) NovaHawk 05:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Didn't realise that existed :P But you could have a (slightly more effort though) add on variable. Like "VIP = yes", set default to no. CJC95 (talk) 14:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I'm ok if it's an "opt-in" thing, I just don't think it should be there for all the pages and we'd have to go around and turn them off manually :) NovaHawk 23:08, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, opt in is easier than opt out. CJC95 (talk) 23:24, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

So, to clarify, this change will: 1. Set us apart from the old wiki in our new info in most set pages while 2. Still being practical and easy to install. Obviously it is rather common knowledge, but it sets us apart from other sites as having this information and I would rather take the risk and increase our site traffic a little. It would be rather simple to set up (thank you CJC) and would only require a slight change to the set template. -NBP3.0 (talk) 23:02, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Just putting it out there but maybe we should have an article on what VIP points/the VIP program is before we bother with this. --ToaMeiko (talk) 23:16, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Mayhaps. (Looks at NBP.) CJC95 (talk) 23:24, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
    • (Looks around for other user to do something) -NBP3.0 (talk) 00:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Set up a vote below:
Do

# Can't hurt I guess. Obviously shouldn't be compulsory for older sets NovaHawk 23:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC) (struck by user, see reason below) # Yes please. -NBP3.0 (talk) 14:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

  1. CJC95 (talk) 16:28, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Do not
  1. I think it's preety pointless information and VIP points aren't available in some countries. Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg
  2. There's hardly consistency in VIP points as Soupperson said, especially regionally. It's not worth the trouble. --ToaMeiko (talk) 17:40, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
    People above said it was just the floor of the USD price. CJC95 (talk) 19:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
    VIP points are available to any country that can access S@H. NovaHawk 12:10, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  3. Ah. It appears they've changed the way they do VIP points. The number of points you earned used to be (as of 1 or 2 years ago) based on US price, and it was the same throughout the world. But it's now changed. For example: 75030 from the US gets you 9 points, from New Zealand, it gets you 11. Therefore, I don't think this would be a feasible thing to have in an article. NovaHawk 12:10, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  4. Per Nova. CJC95 (talk) 13:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  5. I struck my own vote, as I assumed the same system had been in place for every country. Oh well, we may as well scrap this idea then. At least I should be able to get started on a VIP points article though. Thanks to those who supported or even considered my idea. -NBP3.0 (talk) 15:25, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Dont get hard on yourself we all have ideas that fail, mainly me :P Your idea only had the intention of improving the site which is what matters. Soupperson1 Friends are Forever! <3Friends girls.jpg
There is no opinion (neutral)
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Administrative notice Re:ClickABrick[edit]

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Just a notice that (as I had no where else to place this), as Clickabrick appears not to exist anymore, I have removed it from the (currently mid-revision) mainpage template. If it is back, it can be readded without need for vote and what not. CJC95 (talk) 13:41, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


Unlicensed minifigures[edit]

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  • I think this was either ignored or voted down last time, I can't remember, but since policies are undergoing an overhaul at the moment, I thought I may as well bring it up again. Our unlicensed minifigure pages are a mess. That is, the pages that we have in the first place. We don't even have pages for most of them. So, I'm proposing that every individual (as in, different combination of head/body/legs/hair) gets its own page. If we have them all on one "type" page, they'll never get updated, and never realistically get to a "complete" status- take Police Officer for example- if that was done correctly, we'd have literally over 100 variants on the page. One issue that has always been brought up is that they'd be hard to name. I'm not really seeing an issue, we could either do "Police Officer (2014-3)" for the third unique Police Officer which was originally released in 2014, or "Police Officer (60010)", for a unique Police Officer first released in the set 60010 (if there are more than one in a set, do "Police Officer (60010-1)" and "Police Officer (60010-2)". Anyway, feel free to discuss/add suggestions, or more likely, ignore this section entirely. NovaHawk 06:19, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
    • I have a suggestion for things like Police Officer. Since realistically we don't want every variant of the police officer on one page because it'd be too much for one article, maybe we should separate the variants by year? Like "Police Officer (2014)"? And then if any police officer figure has more significance than the others, they can have their own article, such as Chase McCain. --ToaMeiko (talk) 20:07, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
      • Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I like the sound of that. Doing it that way would also mean we could keep things like soccer players grouped by teams (since they all usually come out in the same year), and would save us needing an article for each of them. NovaHawk 23:59, 30 November 2014 (UTC)


PageInCat extension[edit]

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  • Any chance of getting this installed? I'm thinking of doing a few things for BrickiProjects, where articles will have extra icons next to their names apart from just their rating, like a "requires update" icon, etc. I can do it semantically if needed, but this should work much more effectively NovaHawk 22:39, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
    • I'm interested in what you're thinking about. Do you want me to install it on http://georgebarnick.com/refreshed-beta because 1) I forget how to install extensions here and 2) I'd like to see what could be done with said icons in the new skin. --ToaMeiko (talk) 23:51, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
      • Oh, what I'm thinking of actually isn't that interesting :P Just for projects, I thought it'd be useful to see a bit more info on pages than just the rating, for example, on Brickipedia:Project Ultra Agents, instead of just seeing
you could use {{#pageincat:Articles that need to be updated|[[File:Ambox_warning_yellow.svg|x20px]]}} to detect if an article needs an update, which would produce something like:
NovaHawk 00:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
600px-Yes check.svg.png Done. (the hook is #incat, not #pageincat though) UltrasonicNXT (talk)
Thanks NXT :) And hi! Haven't seen you in ages NovaHawk 11:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
hiya :) UltrasonicNXT (talk)