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To all of the people who want to stay behind for nothing other than some reactionary sense that change is bad, honestly, think about this and give it a chance. Don't ruin it for the majority of the people here.

Funding[edit source]

An obvious issue, and I have no problem with providing some initial funding and then managing the monetary aspect of the wiki. I think that we should be ad-supported, and just keep one ad in the sidebar. While I don't want to register us as a non-profit organization, profit will not be the goal here, so perhaps if we get enough money we can remove the ads for a year or something. I would also be OK with some sort of financial committee to ensure that the funds are put to good use, and nobody is taking any for themselves. Another option that we could look at is a yearly bursary of some sort to editors who have really put in a lot of work. Lots of things to consider. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ah okay, so you're just providing the startup funding, not the ongoing. Okay. I thought about the paying users... great idea. $) User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:07, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
So basically spotlights? -- Sir Penguin! 01:06, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
No, google ads... User:Ajraddatz/sig 01:07, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Ah, Sorry, Google ads put how much in the bank? -- Sir Penguin! 01:08, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Can not thank you enough ajr, But what happens when you don't wanna pay? -- Sir Penguin! 01:15, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
When he doesn't want to pay what? Ajr pays the startup costs, Google ads pay the rest. (and maybe Ajr back if there's enough). User:Captain Jag/sig1 01:20, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
When will we have a link? Xmas? -- Sir Penguin! 01:28, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
I just gotta say DON'T DO IT!!!!!! It's a really bad idea. First of all there are 16,733 pages on this wiki and it would be impossible to move them all to another location, second, just think of how many people worldwide rely on this wiki for info on upcoming sets and archived sets, third, if we move it all then an important piece of info might accidentally be left behind, forth, if we did move then who would be in charge of moving all the info on this wiki and how do we know that the very special info on this wiki would be taken care of in the move, fifth, how would we know that the new host would take good care of this wiki, and sixth, how many of you can actually supply the funding needed, hun, because I sure can't, I am only 16 and have no credit card, source of income, or cell phone. -- brickticks 02:20, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
You obviously have no idea how this works, so I'd ask that you refrain from telling doomsday stories which quite frankly aren't true. It takes all of ten minutes to move every file, page and part of this wiki to another domain. We would advertise the new site, so that all of the people worldwide who view us know that we've moved. No info will be left behind - we use something called a database dump, and that includes absolutely everything on Brickipedia. The info will be taken care of because we will all be on the new site taking care of it.... Finally, we will be ad-supported, meaning that funding isn't an issue. So again, if you don't know what you're talking about, refrain from telling doomsday stories. User:Ajraddatz/sig 19:40, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

But time,support, and sufficient funding is something we might not have. Consider this, you must, or doomed all of the Lego Archives, here stored, may be. -- Brickticks 11:06, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps before Xmas Crazed Penguin, how much do you think User:Ajraddatz/sig will pay for the startup costs?, and do you think he'll have enough? --Power Jim talk 09:00, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I do have enough, and the timeline depends on when we get enough of the basics down to start. User:Ajraddatz/sig 15:31, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
I'd be willing to be some part of a financial committee (not someone who actually pays it though, just someone who can see all the transactions). User:Captain Jag/sig1 18:34, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
That would be great. More oversight (even on me) is a good thing. User:Ajraddatz/sig 19:40, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
I have some money...If that helps at all. -- Sir Penguin! 02:32, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
I'm willing to add in some cash. Maybe we could have a paypal donition thing set up.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
I would give something... But I'm really poor, I need every penny I have. :/ -User:Legoguy2805/sig1 15:50, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Domain name[edit source]

It might be worthwhile to look into buying brickipedia.org from whoever has it, and I can look into that possibility (though that would be expensive ;-;) User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Why would that be too expensive? Buying it from someone else? User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:07, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
It costs $80 + whatever the owners want to buy it. That could get very expensive. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:09, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Call it Studipedia If it costs to keep our name. -- Sir Penguin! 00:25, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
I suppose we could try .net or .info maybe, or if enough people here are British, perhaps co.uk? User:Cligra/Sig
Studipedia, Legopedia, Pediapedia. That's the names I have.
lego.brickimedia.com/wiki/User:Captain_Jag? We can have custom.brickimedia, lu.brickimedia, stories.brickimedia... User:Captain Jag/sig1 00:34, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Ok, Brickimedia sounds good. What about Logo? Does the wiki have basic wikia stuff? (i.e admin noticeboard, tools, etc)? -- Sir Penguin! 00:39, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
I was going to get brickimedia anyways for the coordination site... I'd like brickipedia.org myself. User:Ajraddatz/sig 01:07, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

(outdent) LEGO doesn't like it when they have their company name in someone else's domain name (they don't want to be considered affiliated), which leaves out Legopedia. Studipedia...how do you pronounce that? And what is a stud, to someone who knows little about LEGO? It's worth trying to buy brickipedia.org; there aren't many plausible alternatives. FB100Z • talk • contribs 02:34, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

You mean root domain name? We already have lego as a subdomain name... User:Captain Jag/sig1 03:51, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Tbph, when you said "studipedia", I thought you meant "stupid" and not "stud". I don't like it anyways. - Kingcjc 15:45, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Notice - I will be buying brickimedia.org tonight, just so we have it :-) User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:36, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Awesome! I agree, no .info. .or would be best IMO. -User:Nerfblasterpro/sig1 16:58, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Why not ".com" instead of ".org"? User:Darth henry/Sig 17:08, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
We're an organization, not a commercial website. User:Ajraddatz/sig 17:32, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Why are you buying it now? I mean, there's still quite a few people who don't really want to move. User:Captain Jag/sig1 18:43, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
I'm buying it now so that we have it for the move, if we do, instead of needing to dole out more than what it costs now if someone goes and buys it before us. Also, 90% of people are onboard with this, which is a good enough number to leave everyone else behind. User:Ajraddatz/sig 19:47, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

(brickipedia.org & .com) Ajr, you fool. If we were to talk nicely with whoever owns the domain, we could get it for $10... you forgot to mention that, if we talk with them, and they agree to transfer, its $10 :/ Just saying and all... --80.4.202.61 19:33, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

They have whois protection so there is no way to know who they are without going through something else. Great idea in theory, and if you know who owns the domains then that is definitely something I'd pursue. User:Ajraddatz/sig 19:45, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm willing to pitch in some money to buy Brickipedia.com.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
    .org would be much better, since we're...well...not strictly a section 501 non-profit, but we treat ourselves like one anyway. FB100Z • talk • contribs 17:16, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
    Well, here's the info about brickipedia.org. [1]--Munchman14Dino Attack 17:29, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Skin/extensions/features[edit source]

What skin should we use, what extensions and features do we want? User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Can we create new levels of protection? Oh, and definitely a new rating system. User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:07, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
We can. We could have patroller protection, user protection, bureaucrat protection, though I don't think that it's needed. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:11, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
I meant like for Rating protection, if we wanted to use that idea. User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:13, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I can start skinning, although I'm kinda swamped with work and school. Should I go for the Monobook look, or go Green (except blue)? FB100Z • talk • contribs 23:17, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Monobook :P Also people seem to like Vector. NovaHawk 23:22, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Monobook!

Monobook! Monobook! Monobook! (different people like different colours :D) User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:23, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

TBH I'd like vector as default (or FB100Z's blue skin, it's actually really nice). Vector is very user friendly and quite frankly looks amazing. There is no problem with multiple options, though, and allowing users to select from a list of many skins. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:27, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Where's FB's skin? Can I see it? The more options the better :) User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:29, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
There was an HTML shell a while ago, but that was deleted. You'll need to wait on that, sorry. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:34, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Monobook!

Monobook! Monobook! Monobook! (this is the only time I'm going to use these evil templates :D). I wouldn't mind Vector being default, as long as there is a Monobook option as well NovaHawk 23:50, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I could make a LEO Background, Just give me time. -- Sir Penguin! 00:25, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Can I see what Vector looks like before I cast my vote? User:Cligra/Sig
    It's the default skin on the admin wiki. User:Ajraddatz/sig 00:27, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    • And Wikipedia. NovaHawk 04:43, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Link please. I lost my connection for a sec to my faves. -- Sir Penguin! 00:29, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Ah yes, that does look nice. User:Cligra/Sig
  • On the skins thig, I've started doing stuff, but the main thing, is what do we want? Navigation, Colours, Layout? User:UltrasonicNXT/Signature 15:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Talk to FB100Z, I know that he has a great idea :3 User:Ajraddatz/sig 16:35, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    I'd like a floating toolbar down the bottom like on Oasis. User:Captain Jag/sig1 18:14, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    What do you use to code the skins and stuff? I'd like to learn it (always ready to learn a new coding language) User:Captain Jag/sig1 21:31, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    Coding skins is a long and painful process - see this manual. User:Ajraddatz/sig 21:32, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    Okay, so you make it with HTML and put the special code in for the article name, content, logo, and such? User:Captain Jag/sig1 21:34, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    I've started trying using this, but do I need a wiki to test it? User:Captain Jag/sig1 22:11, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Can you do Monaco? BF2 Talk 22:54, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

We could definitely provide monaco as an option for users. User:Ajraddatz/sig 22:56, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Monaco is a Wikia-exclusive skin; how are we going to obtain it? By the way, you would have no idea how difficult it is to maintain more than two skins simultaneously. FB100Z • talk • contribs 00:19, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, all, I've set up a Google Code project so we can all work on the skin together :) FB100Z • talk • contribs 00:19, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ask the people at Bulbapedia.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Forums[edit source]

What extension should we use for forums, and how should we organize them? User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Forums as in the forums we have now or actual forums? - Kingcjc 15:46, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Actual forums, preferably with the WikiForum extension. User:Ajraddatz/sig 16:35, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Plan sounds good so far. -- Sir Penguin! 03:26, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Ajr. Actual forums would be best in my opinion. User:SKP4472/sig2 06:47, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Other wikis[edit source]

Should we also host wikis for LEGO-related topics, such as LEGO Universe, BIONICLE, Custom LEGO Wiki, etc? User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Let's go one at a time for now. Moving Brickipedia itself is difficult enough. FB100Z • talk • contribs 23:16, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good. There's no reason why we can't focus on Brickipedia now, then discuss other projects once we're established. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:30, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Maybe Instead of having a really good wiki to be friends once the first project is over should we add wikis like Power Miners Wiki, Alien Conquest? Herofactorpedia? -- Sir Penguin! 01:05, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Past experience with Herofactorpedia hasn't been positive. At least, not on BF2s talk page :P - Kingcjc 15:47, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

On the subject of past Herofactopedia experience, I've got an idea, just leave it to me. -- brickticks 11:23, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

  • One thing that we should definitely do is move out with the other language Brickipedias. Hopefully their communities will agree to it, but if no, we can just start a duplicate site anyways (though obviously them agreeing to it is better). User:Ajraddatz/sig 17:42, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Ya, let's go one at a time.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
    But it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy out some other domain names for the future...--Munchman14Dino Attack 19:10, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Global groups[edit source]

  • One thing that we definitely would have is some type of coordination wiki (brickimedia.org) and a centralized image repository (commons.brickimedia.org). In terms of global user groups, I'd love to not have any. There could be a steward group on brickipedia.org which can, using userrights-interwiki add users to groups on other wikis (and themselves in an emergency), but I don't want a global group to run around with fancy tools on all projects. That being said, stewards would definitely be elected by the global community, maybe once or twice a year as needed. There would also be developers, who could add themselves to groups *as needed* crosswiki. Both stewards and developers would remove themselves from groups as soon as the need has gone. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:16, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
  • Another option would be to have global groups (steward, global rollback and developer), and while this option has benefits, I don't really like the idea of giving people unlimited sysop access on all projects. Maybe we could just have a global patroller group for trusted users, and use the above idea for stewards/devs? User:Ajraddatz/sig 00:54, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Sounds good. I'm liking the new "Brickipedia". -- Sir Penguin! 01:12, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Who can add new CheckUsers, stewards, and devs? User:Captain Jag/sig1 01:17, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Bot? -- Sir Penguin! 01:18, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Stewards can add checkuser/oversight/steward/dev, and devs can make other users devs (and themselves sysops and crats on projects as required, see /user groups). User:Ajraddatz/sig 01:26, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Bots can be local or global, and added/removed by crats. User:Ajraddatz/sig 01:28, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

User groups[edit source]

A very minor thing but something which should be decided on. The usual sysop, crat, bot, rollback, patroller, but we should also look at checkusers and oversighters. Under what criteria should those rights be assigned, since they have potential legal issues? User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say the same policy as before for that, definitely. What does Wikia do about that? And we can create our own user groups, right? User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:07, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
We can create our own groups. I'd say for checkuser/oversight over 16 and an admin for a year+ on that wiki with no issues. Can never be too careful with these things... User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:10, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
You mean 1 year+, including here, right? And the old checkusers stay as checkuser? So we're going to ask them how old they are? User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:15, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yea, we'd go with time on the old site+new site. All the checkusers here have been admins on Brickipedia for over a year, and are over 16, so no problems :-) User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:20, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
They are? Okay... how do you know how old NHL is? User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:21, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Simple mathematical calculation. NHL joined in 2006, it is now 2011. He needed to be 13 to make an account then, so that would place him at at least 18. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:23, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Don't you mean 13? Or was it different? User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:26, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
And what I meant was, are you going to ask everyone how old they are? And will we even have a 13 age limit? User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:26, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, checkusers would need to identify to some body of people in case of legal issues. I assume that per local consensus on that forum a while back that we'd keep the 13 year old limit. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:28, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Well, that puts me out for checkuser, one big thing that attracted me to wikis was that I didn't have to provide any personal information NovaHawk 23:46, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
You don't necessarily need to provide info since you already have access to it, just acknowledge the fact that there are privacy concerns involving the tool. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:49, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
You already have it. User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:50, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
I'd be happy to help out on the project as an early user. -- Sir Penguin! 00:23, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Per Nighthawk, I like to keep my privacy... User:Cligra/Sig
Then don't be a checkuser/steward. We could look into different options like an online, secure NDA, but that's pushing it and wouldn't cover all legal responsibility. User:Ajraddatz/sig 00:30, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • I think I could make a good early admin. I have ideas for the new "Bricki". -- Sir Penguin! 00:24, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    No. User:Ajraddatz/sig 00:33, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Crat to admin who has been with the project for twenty years: Are you over 16?
I've had SIX editconflicts trying to save this one edit... User:Captain Jag/sig1 00:34, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Wow, I don't think I've ever had more than 2 editconflicts in a row before :) About a new user group, would we be able to discuss having a really basic "page creator" group, where you have to have this right (or anything above) to create a page? One of our big problems with the reliability of information on this site is people passing through and creating fake set/minifigure articles :S NovaHawk 04:51, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
I think the bigger problem with reliability is that we have no citation policy XD But that's another story. FB100Z • talk • contribs 05:01, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure that's possible- oh, and support. And I was surprised when I did actually save ;) User:Captain Jag/sig1 05:22, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
A question- will accounts be global? Brickimedia (that's what I'm calling this new project for now)- wide? User:Captain Jag/sig1 05:24, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Indeed, accounts would be global across Brickimedia. To NHL, yes, we could have a page creators group, and that wouldn't be a bad idea either (though it is something that we should probably discuss at a later time). A more realistic thought might be limiting page creation to autoconfirmed users, cutting the bureaucracy of another group. User:Ajraddatz/sig 13:34, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I suppose so. Add it to autoconfirmed- I mean, remove it from IP and users. User:Captain Jag/sig1 18:35, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Does steward have access to checkuser? User:Captain Jag/sig1 21:32, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Stewards will be able to add themselves to the sysop/checkuser/oversight group on a wiki temporarily if needed. They would do so in an emergency, or in the case of cu/os if the wiki didn't have local ones. They would do this via userrights-interwiki on brickimedia.org, leaving no log entries on the local wiki. User:Ajraddatz/sig 21:35, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


Every Admin should get Checkuser. It's a useful tool that does no harm. BF2 Talk 22:57, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Basically, it's just a tool extension that makes it easier to find vandal stuff if there's some sort of trend. BF2 Talk 22:58, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Definitely disagree with this. CheckUser, as said above, has some serious legal issues in regards to personal information. There is no other tool that has such issues, and as such, checkuser access should be limited to those that really need it and those that are very trusted. User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:00, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I was under the impression that it just allows you to check more in-depth with IPs. BF2 Talk 23:01, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I say we should keep the same levels, and try to get good users from brickipedia to become admins.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

How will we get users to the new wiki?[edit source]

  • As in favor of moving as I am, I am still a bit concerned about how the new wiki will attract new users-won't they just come to the old one? I suppose we could post a notice on the main page with a link to the new wiki, but still...User:Cligra/Sig
    This is a concern, and the problem is that Wikia won't close this site after we leave (though we could ask nicely). We could prevent account creations and editing via abusefilter, but Wikia would just disable that and block us/remove our sysop tools. When we are sure we could always ask. User:Ajraddatz/sig 00:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    NetHack Wiki successfully moved to a different site without Wikia getting on their case... 75.0.178.128 02:07, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    That's because NetHack Wiki is small and Wikia doesn't care enough to be watching every single wiki. Brickipedia is Wikia's eighth most active wiki - they'd care if we go. User:Ajraddatz/sig 02:40, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    How do you know? -- Sir Penguin! 02:46, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Because I'm not stupid. Wikis like WoWWiki, PvXWiki and GuildWiki have all gotten in a big mess when trying to leave, and the same thing will happen to us, because we are one of Wikia's most active and largest wikis (15,000 articles, 103 active users, lots and lots of page views and ad clicks per day). User:Ajraddatz/sig 02:49, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Ajr, You don't like me do you?-- Sir Penguin! 02:51, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    No, I don't like you and I don't not like you, I'm rather neutral. This particular thing just strikes me as an obvious fact, though maybe that's due to my experience in this area. Sorry if I've offended you. User:Ajraddatz/sig 03:47, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    Indeed. When Wikisimpsons moved, both the shoutwiki domain and later the independent domain were added to the spam filter and so you couldn't (and still can't) post them anywhere on wikia. Of course, we could always leave messages on other LEGO forums. I have an idea, but I won't post it here as that would give it away. If you can't see admin wiki (because you aren't admin, obviously >_> ), message me on chat. - Kingcjc 15:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
    I can't see it... User:Captain Jag/sig1 18:21, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    Since I posted that I'd put it on the admin wiki, the admin wiki hasn't worked for me :P - Kingcjc 22:11, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    It says that your last edit was on 2 October, on Leaving Wikia. User:Captain Jag/sig1 22:17, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    On admin? That is because, until 2 minutes ago, it was :P - Yesterday and earlier, the site wouldn't load properly for me, but now it is. - Kingcjc 22:28, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    I don't see it either. Is it a blog? BF2 Talk 23:02, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
    Its on the admin wiki, under forum. - Kingcjc 10:15, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
    Is this the one for April Fools? I don't remember any of the others. BF2 Talk 16:56, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
  • The thing is, we get quite a bit of traffic from wikia, and we won't get all that at our own place. User:UltrasonicNXT/Signature 17:59, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • If we put it on the main page, it'll work slowly but surely.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  • I guess I'd be willing to follow on with the move but that doesn't mean I won't edit Wiki's at Wikia (but I will most likely not be editing here). :) User:SKP4472/sig2 16:27, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

People?[edit source]

Are people still planning on staying? Community needs to stick together. Other then the whole competing wiki factor, which in itself is bad; this wiki depends on a rather-community based atmosphere, and I'm sure many people will have buggered off ages ago if the community wasn't here (like me :D ). Plus, it means neither site would be that...effective. Everyone here finds interesting stuff and has different ways of doing it, from people finding old key chains or tv shows to the people who know all these new games and super heroes, and so to lose, well anyone to a move would be a pretty-bad thing.

Also, if your dead-set on staying just think: How would it feel to be on a wiki without me? (What do you mean you would definitely stay here if I left...)

- Kingcjc 22:28, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

By the way, staying means that you will have to edit all alone. Considering that most people here wouldn't make a lot of edits in a single day (more than 15-20), you'd be stuck with about 100 edits a day at most, not counting IPs, having to revert thousands of pages of vandalism by yourselves, and left with a big mess. BF2 Talk 23:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Because we are a big wiki, info would get outdated really soon without a large community to keep it up to date. And the vandalism problem... Basically, it is better for everyone if we either all move or all stay. We should have one vote on it - each side presenting arguments and then a nice straw poll vote. Then we'll all go with what the majority want (I'm fine with staying here if that's what we want to do). User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:09, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Me too, I say we do it --Berrybrick (Talk) | (Con.) 23:12, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
Wait for the poll. BF2 Talk 23:13, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
See /vote. Ajr please fill in more. User:Captain Jag/sig1 23:18, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
I meant I agree with what Ajr said --Berrybrick (Talk) | (Con.) 23:19, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


  • Just look at other old-wikia websites that are popular:Biosecter, Bulbapedia, ect. We'll do fine if we advertise it.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:55, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
    • I never knew Bulbapedia came from Wikia. If that's the case, my concerns about notability are somewhat lessened. NovaHawk 00:58, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
      • I'm pretty sure it did, and if we can match their website style, we'll have no problems. :)--Munchman14Dino Attack 01:00, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
      • There are actually a few wikis who've moved off successfully. Examples: WikiFur, Wowpedia, Transformers Wiki, Club Penguin Wiki (though their servers recently broke), Simpsons Wiki, and FFXI Wiki. All of those wikis are doing better on their own hosting than they did on Wikia. User:Ajraddatz/sig 01:01, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
        • Don't forget Mario Wiki..........-- Sir Penguin! 01:38, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
I'm wondering if some of the people here will resist the migration just because of the stupid beloved Achievements feature... >_> User:1999bug/sig1 00:50, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • Wait a second, just started reading the below section. Badges are being replaced. User:1999bug/sig1 00:51, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Social Profile[edit source]

All of our social stuff will be done through this extension. This will include:

  • Awards and user ranks, which will replace badges. You get a certain number of points for each action on-wiki, and random awards for various things.
  • Gifts, which can replace barnstars. It is an automated system - you can select a gift from a list and then award it to a user. We can rename this to barnstar if we want to.
  • Avatars, same as here.
  • Blogs. Same design, more functionality from a technical point of view (URLs that aren't 2,000 characters long).
  • A special userpage to accomodate this, which can be deactivated on a user-by-user basis by the user if they don't want it.
  • Forums. Using the WikiForum extension, we will have proper forums.

You'll notice that there is more on that page, but unless people really want it I don't see a point in enabling it. We will also be working on developing a chat extension like the one used here. User:Ajraddatz/sig 15:07, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well, this all seems good and not too hard to upload.--Munchman14Dino Attack 15:31, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
I'd like the idea of having an 'add friend' function but not an 'add foe' function.
User:SKP4472/sig2 15:42, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
We could use the friends one, but I agree to definitely not use foes. User:Ajraddatz/sig 15:45, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. -User:Legoguy2805/sig1 15:45, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Yey, Ajr agree's with me! :D User:SKP4472/sig2 16:12, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Wow, we all can actually agree!--Munchman14Dino Attack 16:47, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Unsure, I'll have to look deeper into the extension to get a better understanding. Looks promising, though. It would be interesting to experiment as to how that would fit in with our new skin :) FB100Z • talk • contribs 17:45, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
I agree too... and can the public part of the chat please have logs? User:Captain Jag/sig1 17:50, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

We're going to have to let the chat go for a while and move to the IRC. Built-in chats are quite difficult, actually. FB100Z • talk • contribs 18:50, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

  • That new forum extension definitely looks much cleaner than the AWC's forum extension. However, by the looks of it, you can't link to individual posts, and I don't know what happens if the thread goes over one page- can you link to individual pages? NovaHawk 23:23, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
    I don't know, but I'll check for you. The beauty of it is that if extensions don't do what we want them to, we can modify them so that they do :-D User:Ajraddatz/sig 23:27, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
    Ya, since we would run the place!--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:14, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

I really don't like badges, simply because they serve no purpose and encourage thoughtless, useless, edits. However, if we must... BF2 Talk 18:18, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

  • Some users only edit wikia for that reason. Personally, I don't care for them, but if it keeps our community together, I guess I'm for it. User:1999bug/sig1 00:56, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brickimedia[edit source]

FB100Z thinks that Brickimedia Association should be developed last - I personally agree with UltrasonicNXT that it should come first. Ultimately, we need to sort out the practical and technical stuff before anything else - establish what global policies will be enacted, and determine general structure. Any comments? User:Ajraddatz/sig 17:50, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Ajr and NXT... User:Captain Jag/sig1 18:15, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
Wikia didn't notify me of these changes, so I'm a bit lost here: what is the Brickimedia Association? BF2 Talk 18:16, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
The Brickimedia Association is my personal wiki the base wiki for Brickipedia, hosting the images and the base policies and stuff. User:Captain Jag/sig1 18:21, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
It's is a bit like the Wikimedia project (The "base" for Wikipeda, Wikiquote, Wikinews ect.). So the Brickimedia project is the base for Brickipedia, MLN Wiki, LU Wiki, ect. (those are just examples, I have no clue if they will move with us). User:UltrasonicNXT/Signature 18:36, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
So, let's get on with creating policies for this- I really want to get moving with this move. I mean, it can't hurt to draft up some policies... See /Brickimedia. User:Captain Jag/sig1 22:26, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
I believe it should come first; we should start out with a solid group of leaders and a solid organization.--Munchman14Dino Attack 00:01, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
Move first, then Brickimedia. When you tackle a big project like this one, you should always go one step at a time. FB100Z • talk • contribs 18:42, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

???[edit source]

I'm not understanding why we need to move I mean Brikipedia has become so big it would be a huge move! ▂▃▅▆▇█▓▒░Eagleeyedan▒░▓█▇▆▅▃▂

Because Wikia doesn't care about the users. BF2 Talk 18:19, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
And we'll be able to make money by doing it :p--Munchman14Dino Attack 22:41, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
Wikia's going south. They're basically becoming a social network, not a community of online encyclopedias. User:1999bug/sig1 01:01, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
I hope you aren't thinking that we're manually copying all the content :P FB100Z • talk • contribs 18:42, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Note[edit source]

I have appointed myself developer :P Seeing as I'm not an administrator, and I haven't been selected as a developer by the community, I'm starting to wonder whether it would be appropriate for me to have this much power. FB100Z • talk • contribs 22:10, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

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