Brickipedia:Proposal to move Brickipedia to ShoutWiki
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Earlier this year there was discussion and a vote about many changes, some of which ended up being implemented, while others weren't. For example, we voted to consolidate the sites, although due to technical reasons this hasn't fully been carried out yet. One of the proposals which got more votes than most other things have for a long time was ToaMeiko's proposal for a new host for Brickipedia. Even though the votes were overwhelmingly in favor of the proposal, it wasn't implemented and now, in December 2016, Brickipedia is hosted on the same server it was hosted back in March 2016 when Meiko's proposal was created. It goes without saying that obviously the problems that were present in March are still present in November.
As such, I would like to propose the following: let's move Brickipedia into ShoutWiki.
Please leave any questions you may have in this section and I'll be more than happy to answer them! --Jack Phoenix (talk) 19:29, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
How and where is ShoutWiki's servers hosted? Is it a single location? Or are there multiples based on geolocation? How powerful are the servers and how much resources can be allocated for an individual website? Do all ShoutWiki sites share resources or are the allocated individually à la VPS? What's the network infrastructure powering the servers? What kind of bandwidth can an individual website on ShoutWiki expect? Are the servers powered by backup generators in the case of a power outage? Uninterrupted power supplies in the event of power blips? --ToaMeiko (talk) 19:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
Could being a part of ShoutWiki increase our page views in anyway? e.g. increasing Google search results, etc. BrikkyyTalk 02:07, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Stuff from Ajr
I've put a comment in the oppose section below, as I personally don't think moving to ShoutWiki will help us much. That said, I'll do everything I can to make it happen (transferring domain name, etc) in the event that it does. Just a few of my own thoughts:
Anyway, happy to answer any questions. Like I said in my comment below, if we want more community, I think Wikia is the place for that. It's always cool being on our own, but that requires a dedicated tech community that I'm not sure we have consistently (no offence intended). Ajraddatz (talk) 07:17, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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Let's close this and make it happen
Per title. Obviously the site isn't working right now, which seems super convenient that it stops working as soon as this proposal is made. But whatever. Just make it happen. Ajraddatz (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Will ShoutWiki be taking over financial responsibility for our current domain? Will they get us brickipedia.com as well? And has the GBC community been involved in any of this discussion? Because they're going to need to be moved as well. --ToaMeiko (talk) 18:14, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
ShoutWiki's back up again, we can move now, right? --The Princess Cave~ 18:28, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
@ToaMeiko:: Do you have contact with the guys at GBC? Their DNS will need updating as well if they want to continue to use their domain. --Lewis Cawte (talk) 12:00, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Sorry I just dip in and out here so I guess my opinion shouldn't have as much weight as those that edit all the time. My strongest feelings are: whatever happens I would like to see the domain name kept, whether it be brickimedia.com or .org as it immediately makes this website more visible than the Wikia version. Secondly if the ShoutWiki move didn't happen and Bricki moved back to Wikia, I will not be editing here again. Sorry but my experiences of being an admin on, and subsequently forking, a Wikia wiki mean I will never support the company.
The fact that ShoutWiki can't pay for the domain name is annoying. I don't know anything about the finances here but surely Brickipedia makes more in advertising than the £10 a year or whatever it costs to keep a domain. There is also the issue of if Bricki decides to leave ShoutWiki in the future, would ShoutWiki sell back the domain name? I know Uncyclopedia got screwed over by Wikia who refused to sell them back the domain name.
Ultimately I think we can all agree the service would be better if it were hosted on ShoutWiki. So I guess it comes down to whether someone is willing to pay for the Bricki domain out of their pocket, since ShoutWiki have made it clear they have no interest in acquiring the domain. Sorry I know what I've just written isn't a vote either way. Count me as neutral but keep in mind what I said above. Lachlan (talk) 09:18, 17 February 2017 (UTC)