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Article policies CJC95 (talk) 10:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of 99.999999999% of Backstory[edit source]

Nice, CJC95. :P But I think we sohuld just eradicate the backstory. For more reasons than being a giant multidimensional wall of text. If you read it, or even just skim it over like I did, you'll see that it isn't really... lets just say there's a little too much about killing, assassination, guts and gore that is very much... appropriate for little kids. Let me give you a few examples: "...watched his parent murdered in front of him by Joe Chill..." "Crane exposes Falcone to the toxin while wearing a burlap mask, driving Falcone insane with fear of The Scarecrow." "Batman rescues Rachel from a drug-induced mob..." "...offers to kill Batman for half their money..." "...killing Rachel and scarring half of Dent's face." "threatens to bomb a hospital unless Reese is killed."

The words "kill", "insane", "dead", "assassinate", "murder" and other specimens of that word class appear over 34 times in the backstory alone. Let's keep in mind, people, that LEGO is meant for an audience approx. 6-12 years old. Lego613master (talk) 00:15, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Nah, we're good. LCF (talk!) 00:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Also, let's kill the Nolan trilogy back story. The Nolan trilogy is original and has too much violence anyway. Let's stick to the Animated Series and the Comics? Maybe Burton's films, the other two that were made after that, and the 1966 TV show? LCF (talk!) 00:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
The way I see it, LEGO shouldn't release so much Batman stuff if they don't want kids exposed to those stories, especially the part concerning Joe Chill and his parents. :P They have made sets clearly based on the Nolan trilogy, after all. That said, the Nolan stuff does need to be toned down to just a few paragraphs. It should stay in some form though, per BP:NOT which is also why there shouldn't be anything relating to the animated (minus Beware the Batman) or Adam West stuff since none of the variants or sets directly relate to any of those versions (some of the villains' looks do though...), as far as I am aware. There should be something for the Burton films though, I think, since the black suits are more associated with those movies than the comics, but I'd rather not go into all of that if I don't have to.... :P Berrybrick (talk) 02:53, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Anyway, I'll go ahead and cut down on the Nolan stuff right now, but it's possible I'll get frustrated and quit halfway through. Berrybrick (talk) 02:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I tried doing the first Nolan movie, but I mostly ended up rewriting it and it looks like I actually made it a little longer. Someone better at being concise should do it. :{ Berrybrick (talk) 03:45, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I'll give it a shot. I'll delete as much as my opinion dictates, but if my opinion turns out to be horribly overbearing then just go ahead and revert it. :P Lego613master (talk) 13:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm more of a Burton film person, so I might when I get home. The current Scarecrow is directly based on his animated series counterpart. No wonder he's so ugly. Mr. Freeze is obviously the Arnold Schwarzenegger one from the last movie before the Nolan films. As for the Nolan sets... There's only one, besides the Ice Cream Truck and the Batman Buggy, both of which aren't based on the Nolan films. The Penguin (original) is also heavily based on the version from the '66 TV series. And the Juniors Batmobile is obviously the one from '66. Robin's appearance is said to be in memory of Superboy, but it's obviously from Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. The 2012 Riddler is of course Nygma [sic] from Batman Forever. Just look at that face. Obviously Jim Carrey. Oh, and the original 2006 Riddler is from the Silver Age comics. (A bit off-topic, but whatever. Needed information for this, and I pulled it out from my mental encyclopedia.) LCF (talk!) 13:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Sigh, so much white space....
  • Scarecrow: Disagreeing. It looks more like a generic version to me.
  • Mr. Freeze: Disagreeing. Other than the lack of goggles, it's more reminiscent of the Arkham City costume.[1] I'd just go the lazy generic route again.
  • Penguin: Per Scarecrow. Penguin had a purple top hat, gray vest, and black trousers in that version.
  • Robin: Um, no. :P In Batman and Robin, it was more like Nightwing's costume but with a red symbol and a cape. Compare the minifigure to that, and now this.
  • Riddler: Okay, that one we agree with...or did until I saw the first part. :P Again, more of a generic version. That not this. :P
Yes, but the Nolan stuff should still be covered to some extent (preferably briefly) here because LEGO covered it. Besides, three Batman variants, a Bane variant, Gordon's design, and four tie-in sets (with varying levels of accuracy) are still more than pretty much any other version has, other than the generic "comic book" stuff. Berrybrick (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Berrybrick (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Very confused[edit source]

On this diff I only made minor changes to the image positions. Not sure why anything else has changed - I didn't make those edits - so if it's wrong, don't blame me. :P Lachlan (talk) 15:13, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

  • (Maybe) fixed it. CJC95 (talk) 17:36, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Batman of Zur-En-Arrh[edit source]

Shouldn't there be a separate article for Batman of Zur-En-Arrh? From my understanding he's a separate character from Bruce Wayne altogether. LCF (talk!) 22:49, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Sort of. The minifigure represents the two versions of the character. The grin suggests the Silver Age version who was a separate character, but the side with the stubble is the Modern Age version of the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh, who is Bruce Wayne. I wouldn't be opposed to a separate page, however. Berrybrick (talk) 02:20, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
The recent encyclopedia refers to him as the alien scientist Tlano (well, actually "Tiano", and it's not a typo, they do it both times his name's mentioned, but you get the idea) and makes no mention of Bruce Wayne. I'm guessing since that's the only background we have on this variant, we should assume it's Tlano and make a new page? NovaHawk 13:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Batsuits[edit source]

  • Not sure how we want to handle the three empty batsuits in 70909 Batcave Break-In since they're technically empty suits and not Batman minifigures- any opinions? We do have a page for Iron Man's Mark 42 Armour, but that suit was intended for both Tony and Pepper in the set NovaHawk 03:47, 8 October 2016 (UTC)