Forum:Chat mod and editing

Forums - Chat mod and editing

This page is an archive. Please do not edit the contents of this page. Comment: Concluded A motion to set a precedent that chat moderators should take an active role in the community besides chat, such as editing, maintenance, template creation, image uploading, or the like, either here, at Brickipedia Customs or at Brickimedia Meta, and to that end, propose the removal of those who currently have the right but do not partake in any of the aforementioned activities. CJC95 (talk) 13:17, 15 September 2014 (UTC) Completely agreed, if you look at the amount of traffic we have in chat as opposed to editing it shows that we have too much invested there and not enough in the actual site. I propose that we demote any chat mod who has not made an edit within a specified amount of time, whether it be 2 weeks, a month, etc. -NBP3.0 (talk) 13:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC) I can work with either. CJC95 (talk) 20:26, 19 September 2014 (UTC) My recommendation is 1 month, we should bring this to attention and then implant it. The question will be how you get chat moderator back. -NBP3.0 (talk) 17:13, 20 September 2014 (UTC) Make them re-request it. They should have to show they're willing to work for the right again, since clearly they haven't shown that effort since getting the right in the first place. --ToaMeiko (talk) 05:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC) Agree with this totally. I really need to get editing again, but time is hard to find.... :( --LK901 10:32, 21 September 2014 (UTC) I think it would be fine as long as you do something when you can, which you usually do. Berrybrick (talk) 13:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC) I have mixed feelings about this one, to be honest. It feels almost like threatening users into editing, from my point of view. I feel that unless it's set up carefully, we'll either have users who feel they have too much to do to keep their rights in tact and just give them up, or do the bare minimum required to keep them. Either way is not too effective; I feel there could be much better ways to encourage editing, whether it's promoting it as an activity; saying "Hey, could you help me with this page" from time to time; or things like that. Though at the same time, I understand we don't really need all that many chat mods right now. It's more that I feel this change will be ineffective rather than harmful. I'll go neutral for now, but I'm leaning towards opposing. BrickfilmNut (talk) 01:38, 24 September 2014 (UTC) We've encouraged editing in so many ways, no one cares. If you compare our chat numbers to our amount of daily, nay weekly, editors you would be shocked. Nobody is forcing anyone to edit, but if you want to have rights on this site you have to establish yourself through both editing and chat first. I don't see how it would be fair for someone to get special privelages to a site they don't even care about, only there for its chat system. If we were a site dedicated to LEGO forums/chatting, I don't think it would matter. But we're low on man-power and plenty of people have gotten rights and run away with them. Some kind of rule or system needs (or has needed) to be in put place. -NBP3.0 (talk) 13:24, 24 September 2014 (UTC) Again, it's not so much the feeling that it'd be harmful as opposed to the feeling that it's going to be ineffective. I could be wrong, though, so I only went neutral. BrickfilmNut (talk) 14:14, 24 September 2014 (UTC) A chat moderator's job is to moderate chat. They should be active in chat. It should be encouraged for them to edit, but not enforced, as editing is not their job's first priority. --Knight But our website is not a "Chatting" site, it's made for editing and knowledge. If someone only edits to get chat mod they clearly aren't here for the right reasons. -NBP3.0 (talk) 00:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC) Chat is not their first priority seeing as it's not the first priority of any user to chat on the wiki rather than edit. Chat moderators are chosen as users who are active in contributing to the wiki as well as in chat, not vice versa. If a user can't fulfill the common responsibility as a Brickipedian to contribute to the LEGO encyclopedia, they shouldn't be handling any extra responsibilities such as chat moderator on top of that. --ToaMeiko (talk) 00:18, 7 October 2014 (UTC) What if the admins talked about each mod on the admin wiki, whether the mod was doing well enough for his chat/edit ratio. If the user wasn't up to par, an admin could leave a message asking for an improvement. Each month, the mod discussion will start again. -Nightshade That wouldn't have to be done on the admin wiki; it could be done here. I'd like to assume it wouldn't have to be done monthly, first of all because I feel our users should be responsible-enough that they don't have to be checked up on so frequently, and also because that's a lot of time and busywork for us admins to have to do. --ToaMeiko (talk) 00:48, 7 October 2014 (UTC) Agreed with what seems to be most above (I didn't read it all). Whenever I'm on chat, well over 3/4 of the users are chatmods, and "when everyone's a chat mod... noone is". We've got more than enough users who both edit and chat who could effectively handle any chatmod stuff that needs to be handled (which seems extremely rare anyway). NovaHawk (talk) 11:47, 7 October 2014 (UTC) Since I'd like to wrap this up soon, would it be fair to agree to remove chat mod from anyone who hasn't contributed to content articles (mainspace, reviews, inventories) in a month from before the time I leave this message? If they'd want to get the right back they'd have to be active in article editing and forum participation and then re-request it at BP:RFCM. --ToaMeiko (talk) 20:51, 8 October 2014 (UTC) Yup CJC95 (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2014 (UTC) OK BrickfilmNut (talk) 21:19, 8 October 2014 (UTC) Sure, that sound reasonable. Clone gunner commander jedi talk Kind of self-destructive, but I suppose I see your reasoning. Revoking my rights or not, I'll try to edit more, but I don't know how much I can bring to the table. Perhaps I could start adding my MOCs to Customs. Stormbringer Empire791 (talk) 22:03, 8 October 2014 (UTC) You'll be able to re-request the rights after you actively contribute to the wiki for a while. If of course you see any need to re-request them. It's not like I've seen a chat moderator have to do anything with their rights in months... --ToaMeiko (talk) 22:55, 8 October 2014 (UTC) Please and thank you. -NBP3.0 (talk) 22:11, 8 October 2014 (UTC) My values conflict with each other, but politics say "yes" is the right answer, so let's go with "yes...." Berrybrick (talk) 22:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)